Things I Hate that Other People Love

I was having a discussion with a friend the other day about breeches, and we both started laughing at our complete opposite opinions. She is a big fan of suede full seats and wears them every ride – it’s all she owns. I, on the other hand, have a completely different view on them. It took me a while to even like the grippiness of a full seat at all, and even then I still really hate suede ones. It feels hot, and restrictive, and when I’m walking around I start to feel like I’ve got a loaded diaper. This has been the case across several different brands and styles that I’ve tried. Look, I have a big butt, ok? I don’t like having a big patch of not-really-breathable fabric all over it’s massive expanse. I’ve come to really like the silicone full seats though, as long as the silicone isn’t super grippy. My friend, of course, hates the silicone. Gotta keep those breech manufacturers guessing!

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B Vertigo and Horze have my favorite not-too-sticky silicone seats

Suede full seats aren’t the only thing I hate that many other people seem to love. Fleece is another big one. Specifically fleece that goes on a horse, for any reason. Sheets, coolers, quarter sheets… why??? I don’t want to cover my horse in a tent of artificial fabric that doubles as a static factory and draws shavings, hay, and hair to it like glue. It makes me way crazier than it should, really. I do actually own a fleece cooler though, because I saw one last winter on facebook that had come from a Dutch showjumping competition, was in my colors, and was $10. I felt compelled to “save it”. I don’t really know why, because I put it on Henry once and then promptly never used again, because FLEECE UGH. At some point I’ll find someone to give it to that will love it, I’m sure, because fleece does seem quite popular as long as you’re not me. I’ll keep my wool coolers and my Saratoga.

Another thing I just can’t get on board with is neoprene, specifically on a horse’s legs during exercise. We’ve done plenty of studies by now to show that legs + excessive heat = BAD, and few things in this world trap heat more than neoprene. Trust me, I’ve worn my fair share of wetsuits. They are hot as balls.

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clearly this thing was cutting off the circulation to my brain, because no one should be this excited to swim 500m in the really disgusting Gulf of Mexico

So I just can’t really get down with putting that stuff over a horse’s tendons and ligaments, not when we have so many better materials available these days. Give me something breathable please. Yet neoprene is by far the most common liner/impact material found in all kinds of boots, even some quite expensive and popular brands. It’s cheap, it’s squishy, I get it. Lots of people love those boots. I just can’t.

The other thing that I really want to just throw in a trash pile and burn is web reins. I dunno who invented those nightmare strips but they are the literal worst. Stiff, slippery, and they tear my hands all to hell. Give me calfskin or rubber, or give me nothing at all. But please just don’t give me web reins. But if you have to, at least make it rubberized web so that it has a little bit of grip. Those are fine I guess. But some of y’all must really like those web monstrosities, because they sure do come standard with a lot of bridles, and tons of different kinds of them are made and sold. Bunch of crazy people.

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These are rubberized web. I only hate them a little.

 

Is there anything you hate/love that other people seem to feel the opposite about?

 

54 thoughts on “Things I Hate that Other People Love

  1. Mostly mine is a used to love but now not so much list. Also, I changed disciplines from hunters as a youth to endurance, and moved from East coast to Texas, so that opened my eyes to so many new and different horse options.

    Used to love full seat breeches (aka, magic pants!), but since moving to Texas and switching to tights .. oh man oh man do I love my tights! Breeches of any variant are now just icky and restricting.

    Used to love my leather halter, bridle, breast collar, reins .. now you won’t see a bit of leather on my pony. Rope reins and Biothane tack is all I use now and it’s a good thing because I was horrible to my leather. Sorry leather.

    Used to love 16+ hand horses (I am 5’2”). Now, give me a 14.2 – 15 hand horse any day! I have learned to love the smaller horses and frankly seem to ride them better (or maybe I am just better – who knows).

    Used to hate my daughters asshole horse. Oh hey! I still do! Some things never change 🙂

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  2. I’m on board with hating fleece and web reins; however, I’m gonna have to go with your friend on suede v. silicone full seat. I don’t like that it’s so much tighter feeling than the rest of the fabric (not sure I’m describing this properly). I always want to like them, but then I try them on and I’m like nope nope nope.

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    1. HA mine feel the opposite – my silicone full seats don’t feel any different to me than my knee patch, whereas the suede feel SO tight and restrictive lol. Guess it depends on your butt and the exact breeches you end up with. I did have one pair of silicone full seats that were WAY too sticky and heavy on the silicone that I hated.. they had like huge intertwining blobs/strips of silicone. Now I try to find the ones with silicone “dots” that are just mildly sticky, that seems to be the ticket for my butt.

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  3. Tailored sportsman breeches! That thick unflattering fabric and nasty velcro that will snag all your nice sunshirts is a definite NO!

    “All natural” products- As an actual toxicologist, I can tell you there are ALL sorts of natural things that are horribly toxic and damaging! Natural does NOT equal safe and synthetic does NOT equal bad!

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  4. i love suede full seats and have a shit ton of breeches with them.I think i have two or three pairs of hot weather breeches and about 10 full seats. UMMM I may need to rethink my style considering I am now in the hottest place on the planet besides TEXAS LOL. I was thinking the other day I literally have so much winter stuff cause I hate to be cold riding but got only a few things for summer stuff……hmm…..even socks.

    I am okay with web reins but the ones that came with my Eponia are horrible on my hands even with GLOVES on. WTF.

    And fleece looks like a good idea (in ALASKA maybe) but no i can’t stand it, the way everything sticks and static. ICK.

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  5. I hate any white stitching on tack – including fancy stitched bridles. And Velcro or elastic bottoms on breeches.

    AND the velcro billet straps on 98% of saddle pads. I immediately cut them off.

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    1. I used to be that way with my sheepskin thinline until Henry came along and liked Ogilvy better. I am his slave, I bend to his wishes. I like both, though, depending on the horse and the situation!

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    2. SAME. I have never once seen any sort of study or heard any convincing evidence that memory foam does anything except trap heat and squish down- especially when covered with suede! No shock absorbing properties that I have ever been to understand.

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      1. There was actually a study done by Invictus, I posted about it before, that studied shock absorption with different materials common in saddle pads. Memory foam was one of the better-performing materials in their test.

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      2. Karen reminded me of something too – most of the high end French saddles have some memory foam in their panels now. I know Voltaire uses it in their girths as well.

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        1. So interesting!! I’ve never seen that Invictus study. Learn something new every day. Interesting about memory foam in some girths- I’d guess it would be for comfort? Whatever keeps the horses happy!

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          1. I’d be surprised if there wasn’t memory foam in the Voltaire panels, too. I know CWD and Devoucoux both use it (the D3D panels that my horse loves so much have memory foam!), and I’m pretty sure the newer Antares do as well.

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            1. Ok I heard back- for anyone interested: Voltaire saddles do have a thin layer similar to memory foam for the horse’s comfort. The panels are made of 4 different foam layers (comfort, shock absorbing, and shape/structure). The Blue Wing is made with ‘infinity panels’ which are composed very heavily with memory foam. And yes, the girths have a small layer of foam under the layer.

              Very interesting topic, thanks for bringing it up. I learned a lot today, including broadening my view of memory foam’s properties.

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  6. I tried on a few suede full seats and ICK. You are so right – they felt like a diaper. I have a butt too, and suede will just NOT work for all those curves. Silicone dots on the Horze and Piper breeches are my favs so far because they actually conform to the curves lol. I dislike neoprene too. Partially because Amber would protest if any grippy neoprene was on her. If it was a girth or a saddle pad – crowhopping would ensue. So none for her. I don’t have a lot of it, but I’m okay with fleece. I do love my matchy matchy, something I learned but love from my mom and her English years, and most people think I’m super weird for it and don’t like it. (most days I will attest to NOT being matchy matchy haha).

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  7. I’m with you on most of this. And fleece I agree with you, but also I love wearing it because it’s so warm and cozy. I will use it for quarter sheets, but I won’t let a horse in it’s stall wearing a fleece cooler. Nope.
    Something I love that most people hate are the Tuffrider Regal boots. I love them. I have three pairs at all times. One getting worn (and beaten to hell because they’re cheap), one lives in the trailer as a spare in case my show boots decide to break, and I have a pair in Florida. The trailer ones get rotated out when my pair in use dies.
    I’m not into memory foam pads, but everyone else seems to love them. The whole deal with memory foam is that it compresses. So it’s not really doing anything. If you’re saddle is custom to your horse, then it’s probably fine I guess. I’ll stick with my sheepskin though.

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  8. I like fleece coolers because my horse does not live in a stall, therefore, nothing sticks to it. After a winter ride when the horse is sweating through her long coat, the fleece pulls off a lot of the water before I turn her out into the frozen air again. As for web reins, right there with you on that one. Feels like riding with stiff hemp rope in my hands. I think they include them with bridles because they can charge $$$$ for the bridle and give you cheap reins and make a lot more dough than they would otherwise. They let you go pay $100-$150 for decent leather reins on top of the $400 they already charged for the bridle.

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  9. Ariat paddock boots! Or at least the pairs of Ariats I’ve tried on. They’re comfortable to stand in but omg I feel like a teetering old lady walking around in them. Give me my Blundstones any day and i’ll be happy!

    Oh and this is random but I really didn’t like Totalis. I know people were obsessed with him but I thought he was dull and boring. Valegro on the other hand I love! Probably bc he and Charlotte have a cool story (and I love a good story) but I don’t know, he’s just more my style horse I guess?

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    1. I LOVE my Blundstones as well. I can wear the Ariat Terrains (hiker style) but none of their ‘english’ paddocks come close to working for me.

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  10. I’m the crazy that loves web reins with leather hand stops. I always ride with gloves, and my horse doesn’t pull so I actually like the softness and flexibility they offer. I’ve sold my thicker rubber/leather reins as I felt like I could not feel the bit quite as well.

    Fullseats – I do dressage so I live in these puppies. Some brands SUCK but since I have 0 butt I found a few brands they I like w/ faux suede seats. I have some silicon tights (kerrits ice fill) for when the summers get HOT cause ya know, lady bits need to breathe.

    One thing I HATE is cotton in breeches. It pills, it stretches, it absorbs horse snot and water like a sponge. gross. synthetics only for me thanks!

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    1. Gah, web reins feel so stiff to me! LOL. But I don’t really like regular leather reins either though because of the thickness you describe, I have those really thin Nunn Finer ones. Love.

      Totally with you on the cotton breeches. I do not buy any that have cotton in it!

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  11. hah this post is funny…and one of those ones where i enjoy the comments just as much.

    I do not get millbrook leathers (why would I pay $125 for what looks like very stiff leather and it’s not even nylon stitched much less nylon lined and I can’t return them I really DO NOT get it)

    as far as something *I* love that everyone hates? I love happy mouth bits. Love them. Forever.

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    1. I like Happy Mouths well enough. Not as much as a Nathe, but I’ve definitely used them with success on a few horses. I tried one on Henry and he acted like I was killing him, so… not him so much… but others. Less ridiculous horses.

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      1. hm yeah i guess it’s not so much hate… they’re just always my first choice for every problem, whereas I think most other people rarely reach for them. to me they’re like ductape for bits.

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  12. I don’t understand the back on track jumping and exercise boots. I like BOT products, but I don’t want to heat my horse’s tendons while exercising. I wouldn’t say I hate them; I’ve just been completely baffled by their existence. I love old school laced reins and hate rubber reins. Oh and I hate Euroseat style breeches. Love full seat silicone though!

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  13. Bridle paths bug me. So I don’t clip them in. I part the hair for the bridle and call it good.

    I hate the constant maintenance and that they always seem in the wrong place or wrong size. Besides some of my horses need comb-overs to help super thin forelocks.

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  14. SO with you on the web reins, especially the kind with stops! I loathe them. And, judging by personal experience, I don’t find them safe. You cannot slip them easily nor can you gather them back up quickly. Like, when the horse you’re riding for the first time and have been on for three minutes decides to throw her head down violently and crow hop… web reins with stops sure AF didn’t work for me and I wound up in the dirt with a broken back, no less! (I’m fine now)

    As a weekly lesson student I only have a few pairs of breeches. My favorite ones are getting worn a lot so I just looked to get another pair. I can only find them now in full-seat, so I think I’m going to have to try that out. The other thing is they’re cotton – which I DO love, so disagreeing with you on that! I can’t seem to find non-cotton breeches that fit me so I’m kinda stuck with it.

    The horse I’ve been riding lately wears BOT exercise boots on his fronts for every ride. Owner feels they help his arthritis so I do as I’m told. I will have to check his leg temperature post-ride next time!

    As far as fleece, like it on me, not so much on a horse. I agree that it’s impossible to keep clean and everything sticks, ugh. I am very grateful for other modern horse clothing, especially heavy blankets, but fleece can be a real PITA.

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  15. I live on the west coast so I basically have to like fleece everything 🙂 seriously, though, it really is useful in our climate because it breathes and dries quickly while still keeping you moderately warm. It’s also the best at drying rain soaked ponies. Wool here just gets damp and stays damp, although I agree it’s much prettier. A related hate: equestrian rainwear and rainsheets that aren’t actually waterproof…”water resistant” is not the same, and is useless here.

    Dislike cotton breeches! Stretch and lose shape, plus they pill. No thanks.

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    1. This. I had a lovely wool sheet but it NEVER DRIED and I ended up selling it on. I’m 45 min SE of Seattle, so winters need 20 minutes with the hose on full blast, not the sky sneezed briefly waterproof.

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  16. Fancy stitched anything…and good luck finding a decent brown bridle without a flash that doesn’t have fancy stitching!
    Foam panels on a saddle, give me (and my saddle fitter!!) old school wool any day of the week! And can we all just agree that air panels suck and stop doing that all together?
    Jointed stirrups…I feel so unstable in them, especially over fences. I know some people LOVE them, but I can’t get on board with that.
    Gigantic, overly plush polo wraps… obviously someone loves them because companies keep making them…but holy cow…how do you do a tidy wrap on a normal size horse’s leg with those monstrosities!
    Nice flexible rubber or leather reins with hand stops for me, breathable boots or normal polos for my ponies…Love my suede full seats though!

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    1. I just got a plain snaffle bridle – brown, no flash, no fancy stitching, all the regular stitching is brown. It looks really pretty, I like it a lot more than I thought I would!

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  17. I have yet to find any full seats I like. Hells no to neoprene anything. No cotton in breeches. I have a strong dislike for half-chaps. I will not wear an air vest. Ponytails/braids/hair down out of helmets. Automatic waterers. C4 belts or the stretchy woven ones. Jointed stirrup irons. Dark interiors on cars. Comic Sans font. OTC retinols. Whoops… that got out of hand.
    I think I’m done for now. I have a lot of opinions.

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  18. I’m pretty much a hard no on reins that aren’t leather. Don’t like web (stiff and weird), don’t like rubberized (with the pebbles and the… no, so annoying), don’t like nylon (too thick), don’t like biothane (too squishy, if I wanted to hold bologna I’d buy a sandwich).

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  19. Diamantes on every damn thing! Why do I want sparkly things that either fall of or scratch things, especially on the butt of breeches where they risk damaging the saddle? Flash nosebands (or worse, crank flashes) on every bridle in existence except flat hunter bridles. At the very least make the tab removable. Fetlock boots on showjumpers by default. Not that many horses knock behind, why add gear for no reason?

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  20. 100% with you on fleece. I once (foolishly) wore a fleece jacket to move hay. OMG had to chuck the fleece – hay was embedded and no amount of washing could get it out. I love wool and leather for as many things as I possibly can buy it in. I do have a fleece cooler for my mini – which is purple and so damn cute I don’t mind if it gets shavings stuck on it. 🙂

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  21. I did my very first body clip in a fleece jacket. Didn’t learn my lesson and did my second one at home in a rasta rug. 😭🤦🏼‍♀️ Now, I wear the cheapest plasticky soft shell I can find.
    B Vertigo and Horze are my all time favorite breeches with Romfh and TS right behind.
    I don’t use neoprene boots or wraps. I wrap in polos 90% of the time unless we’re jumping, then I use memory foam EquiFits. I CANNOT STAND big fluffy wraps. I actually prefer to buy my wraps used to the point of pilling and I can start to see the little lines from the base fabric.
    It’s weird for me when I have to use a bridle that’s not a crank and I don’t like it. It’s not even about the tightness of the noseband, but I tack so many horses that putting them on is all muscle memory and I don’t think about what I’m doing. I’ll do up a crank while having a full conversation but then when it comes time to use a plain cavesson my hands look at me like “wtf?”
    Black gloves in dressage. I get that it’s more of an eventer thing and you rarely see them at dressage shows, but I like white to break up the solid look. HJ riders have cuffs so it looks totally fine but when it’s just black to more black, I don’t like it.

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    1. You gotta have good hands if you’re gonna wear white gloves though! I wear navy. No need to call further attention to the fact that my hands have minds of their own and are prone to wandering. 😂

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  22. Oh! thought of a new one, I think it is strictly a dressage-land thing, but using bandage liners that are WAY to big, and using the excess like a bell boot. This makes no sense to me ans I keep seeing it.

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  23. I love my thinline reins (arthritis) even though they’re a pain to protect from everything that makes them crack. I hate that most bit options stop at 5.5” when mine wears a 6.5” – also that it’s hard to find simple cavesson bridles a) with no crank or flash, b) big enough (& w sparkle browband and padded crown), c) in black. P

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